Examining the Myths of the Vietnam War

The Uncivil War

Day Two -- Tuesday, July 27, 2004 Third Session 1315-1500 (Click to see video) (Click here to see transcript) [Suggestion: you might want to listen to the Video while reading the transcript. To do this, open the Video which will take you toWindows Media Player and then minimize it and open the transcript.]

8    The Uncivil War – The campus protests vs. the post war Vietnamese experience. What were the charges made by the anti-war protestors and were those charges validated by events? What masters did the movement serve? What was history, finance and ideology of the anti-war movement and how did it get traction? Where is it now? What could be done to reinforce American willpower

Moderator/Speakers: Max Friedman with Dr. Robert Turner and David Horowitz (by phone)

Speaker’s biographical information: Max Friedman has been a journalist/researcher on Vietnam, terrorism, and international affairs for over 30 years. He was a MACV-accredited correspondent in South Vietnam for HUMAN EVENTS weekly, and has written for over 60 newspapers and several newsletters including the Baltimore News American, Manchester Union Leader, NW Star (Pikesville-Baltimore, MD), (Washington) Jewish Week (D.C.), Detriot Jewish News, The Pink Sheet/American Sentinel and the on-line news website www.frontpagemagazine.com.

After spending a year inside the anti-war movement, including at the national level, Friedman was invited to and gave testimony concerning what he had observed, before the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee in Aug. 1969 ("Extent of Subversion in Campus Disorders: Testimony of Max Phillip Friedman", Part 2, SISS, August 1969). Subsequently he gave three more congressional testimonies concerning Vietnam and Cambodia before the House Foreign Affairs and House Armed Services Committees.

Among his writing endeavors were serving as co-editor of "The Human Cost of Communism in Vietnam", Part 2, SISS, 1972; author of the monograph "The Meaning of the Bicentennial: Volume One: The Peoples Bicentennial Commission", ACU Education & Research Institute, 1976; and as editor/contributor to "Remembrances of the Holocaust: From Then To Now", 1997 (Agudas Achim Congregation, Alexandria, Va).

He has been a member of Accuracy in Media and CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America) for whom he has done research and writing.

For the past 13 years, Friedman has been a Paralegal contractor working for the Department of Justice on historical and contract/procurement issues relating to industrial superfund toxic waste sites from the WW2 era.

He has been married for 30 years to Jannis Lucore, has a daughter Lauren, 24, and a son, Joshua, 28 (a combat veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom, 299th Army Engineers, MRB, USA Reserves/3rd ID).

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Articles of Interest:

'60s Generation Shouldn't Be So Smug by Michael Medved, Wall Street Journal April 28, 1986
How North Vietnam Won the War, Bui Tin interviewed by Stephen Young, The Wall Street Journal 3 August 1995
Unfinished Business, by Robert J Brudno, Newsweek, July 1, 1998
Lost in the Sixties, by Mackubin Thomas Owens, National Review on Line, June 5, 2002
Noam Chomsky: Unrepentant Stalinist, by Anders G. Lewis FrontPageMagazine.com  April 9, 2004
Campus Protest Redux?, by David Rogers Staff Reporter of The Wall Street Journal, April 19, 2004

Suggested Reading:

1. Communism and the New Left: What They're Up To Now; (anon); Books by U.S. News and World Report; Washington, DC; 1969: Chap. 2: How They Exploit War, pp 41-64.
2. Deconstructing the Left: From Vietnam to the Persian Gulf; Peter Collier and David Horowitz; Second Thoughts Books, Lanham, MD; 1991: Part. II, Chap. 1: My Vietnam Lessons, pp 78-85; Part III, Chap. 2: Student Activists: Then and Now, pp 131-138; Part IV, Chap 3: The "Peace
" Movement, pp 185-191.
3. Radical Son: A Journey Through Our Times; David Horowitz; The Free Press, NY; 1997: Part 4, Revolutions (1968-1973), pp 155-202.
4. Congressional Record Proceedings and Debates of the 92nd Congress; First Session, April 21, 1971; The Second Front of the Vietnam War: Communist Subversion in the Peace Movement: report by Hon. John G. Schmitz, Hon. Fletcher Thompson, Hon. Roger H. Zion, House Internal Security Committee; published in paperback as The Viet Cong Front in the United States with chapter headings and glossary; Western Islands, Belmont, MA; (no date).
The Troubles, A Jaundiced Glance Back at the Movement of the 60's, Conlin, Joseph, (New York: Franklin Watts, 1982).
The New Left: A History, by William L. O'Neill. Wheeling, IL: Harlan Davidson, Inc., 2001.

Additional Reading Sources:

"Communist Origin and Manipulation of Vietnam Week (April 8-15, 1967)," March 31, 1967, House Committee on Un-American Activities
"New Mobilization Committee to End the War in Vietnam, Part 1 and 2", hearings before the House Committee on Internal Security, April & June, 1970
"The New Mobilization Committee to End the War in Vietnam and its Predecessor Organizations", Staff Study, HISC, 1970.
"National Peace Action Coalition (NPAC) and Peoples Coalition for Peace and Justice (PCPJ), Parts 1-4, hearings before HISC, 1971.


"They were simply young and enjoyed the idea of turning the university upside down.

"It was a compelling idea - standing a society on its head, putting children in charge, declaring a ten-year holiday, jailing and tormenting parents and authority figures, painting the streets red, chanting, settling scores with old enemies and refusing to study. But it does not take longer than a few second to see that it is totally impractical, not to say dangerous, and that any society having to endure it would become stupider, more brutish, slower, less subtle, backward and insecure."

Paul Theroux [On the Sixties in China], Riding the Iron Rooster, G.P Putnam' Sons, 1988, p 142